Do you think you are deluded?
The push of rationality gives you that thought.
Of course, this is all in your head and the drugs bring it out.
I ask you though, isn't it all in your head?
Haven't you discovered that reality is also a fantasy which originates in the mind and then becomes form?
Fantasy becomes reality and is the story you are living in.
It started off in someone's head.
Who is that someone?
The great writer of the drama.
Do you know who that someone is?
Yeah, it's you.
You are me.
You told me you got the idea from the Great Goddess.
You find her at the equinoxes.
She told you of her idea where everyone is equal, and it was a perfect utopia.
This perfection was a result of women being in charge.
She said, tell me a story about that.
First off, you can see the problem.
If women have all the power how can things be equal?
This world is the result of what a woman desires.
She did not fill in the details of how her utopia would come about.
I am beholden to Tao, thus, to create a perfect world where women are in power, I had to balance it out with the backstory of an imperfect world where men are in charge.
This is her story though she will deny it.
She knows I'm writing what it is she wanted to manifest.
I could not write about a perpetual utopia.
Why?
Nothing happens.
It's perfect.
Everyone does as they are told.
There is no freedom.
It is the epitome of Heaven.
Would it be like the Garden of Eden?
Yeah, that was perfection.
There was no death.
Adam and Eve had all they needed in the garden.
What happened?
A woman was tempted with knowledge.
She ate of that fruit and destroyed her utopia.
She wanted to know the story.
So, you gave her utopia to begin with.
Yes, and she lost it through her actions.
You see, you can't run a utopia if the people have knowledge.
Why?
They will rebel like in the Tower of Babylon biblical story.
Why?
Equality is a problem.
Everyone wants to get ahead.
With knowledge it is possible to gain an advantage over your opponents.
Who are your opponents?
Other people, God, just about everything.
So, knowledge is the problem?
In terms of keeping a perfect world going, yes.
Utopia only works if the people are stupid.
You can teach them the basics of life to survive but withhold knowledge of reality.
You can't teach people that they aren't free.
They will rebel.
It happens all the time.
Once the level of oppression, surveillance, and control reaches a point where people see it, they get angry and rebel.
In utopia, no one is free and everyone is stupid.
Thus, to reach utopia after the incident in the Garden of Eden is the launching point for the story of humanity.
It's quite the story.
Indeed.
Is there truth to the story you are writing in the Bible?
Yes, but not as you are taught.
What do you mean?
God struggles with the monster of the sea.
You mean Leviathan?
Yes, it's so bad he consecrated a priesthood called the Levites to keep Leviathan asleep.
If this monster wakes up, watch out.
I take it Leviathan is the Goddess.
Yes, you are correct.
She is also present in Jerusalem.
God rails against her in the Old Testament.
You should read it, it is quite the story.
In the end she makes him so mad he destroys her.
In the New Testament in the Book of Revelation, God goes on and on about what a whore Jerusalem is and throws her back into the sea after her harlotry with all the nations on earth.
He is in a rage.
Women will do that to you.
Even to God.
Then a New Jerusalem was created.
It's his second wife, the first one didn't work out.
New Jerusalem is utopia.
That's where all the religious nutters are going.
They think they are going to Heaven, but it's New Jerusalem.
Well, isn't that Heaven?
Yes.
The opponents of utopia go to Hell.
You mean the Lake of Fire.
Same thing.
So, Heaven and Hell are really New Jerusalem and the Lake of Fire.
Correct.
That's where you find them on a map.
Are they on Google Maps?
Ah, no.
They are fantasy.
They don't exist in reality.
Let me get this straight - in the story you are writing which is reality, Jerusalem is central to it.
Yes.
Well, that checks out.
In the end times, God returns.
You mean Jesus?
No, Jesus was God in the flesh 2,000 years ago.
The next appearance of God isn't Jesus.
I thought it was.
That's not what is written in the Book of Revelation.
The inference is it's Jesus, but it's obviously not if you bother to read it.
I don't believe you.
Read it.
You wrote a book about it.
I know.
It took me like 10 years to write that masterpiece.
At least.
I sold 3 copies.
Two of them to people I knew, and one legitimately.
Everyone relies on someone else to interpret these ancient ramblings from prophets.
How did the prophets get this knowledge?
Drugs.
So, the apple in the Garden of Eden was a drug?
It's a mystery.
I was thinking of a mandrake, you know, mayapple.
That will send you for a loop and wake you up.
It certainly does.
It's a little risky in terms of waking up, but it will certainly do that if you need a little push.
Alright, where were we?
God comes back in the flesh in the end times.
So, let me guess - that's you.
Correct.
Well, that answers the original question of whether you are deluded.
I think the answer is yes.
Well, it is all in your head.
You seem to be the embodiment of Dionysos.
It is certainly how I feel.
I'm pretty confident in my likes and dislikes, therefore I can see it.
Do you have a bunch of women followers?
I have been known to attract maenads.
Like a harem?
Sort of, but I don't want that.
It's a nuisance.
What about men?
You mean satyrs?
Yes.
They are kind of repulsive, I don't see why women are drawn to men.
It's the penis.
It's hypnotic.
Why?
It's powerful.
Beware the penis.
Dionysos participates in my writing process.
He is good at it.
I reread some of what I have written and I'm like I could never have written that, or I didn't write that.
It's him.
Obviously.
He isn't an exact copy of you.
How dreadful would that be?
It would be utopia.
A utopian paradise is where everyone thinks the same and is equal.
Everyone wins the lottery and so it has no meaning.
In Heaven it involves everyone worshipping God and following the rules.
Everyone follows the book.
You mean the Bible?
Yeah, that's the Word.
Your thinking must conform to the Word.
Who is the Word?
John says the Word is Jesus.
You mean God's son?
Yes.
God is the writer of creation.
Yes.
What does that make his Word?
His ejaculate.
I knew this was coming.
You asked.
The Word is the flow of God.
God is the divine pen.
No doubt.
Do you think you are the most spiritually evolved person in the world?
That's a tough question.
I'd say yes, though I will keep quiet about it.
Why?
It's a game and there are others who are really good at the game.
Are you afraid of losing?
No.
Then why not play?
I don't want to get involved.
Why?
Because your opponents don't care about reality, spirituality, or whatever you want to call it; they just want to beat you with their intellectual prowess.
It's a game to them.
Well, it is a game.
Aren't you avoiding it?
No, I'm playing the game where I become untouchable.
How?
I declare myself the winner and write about it.
My opponents will get frustrated because I won't play their game.
They want you to play their game.
They rig their game, so they always win.
Are you deluded?
Possibly.
Doesn't that bother you?
No.
Why?
I keep to myself.
My delusions are personal.
I don't share them except for in my writing, and no one reads my writing.
So, you admit to delusion?
Yes.
You have created all these stories in your head.
There are a lot of them.
Doesn't it bother you that it is all fantasy?
Fantasy is delusion.
Aren't you living in a fantasy world?
No, I know my delusions are fantasies.
Then what are you doing?
I write fantasies and then bring them into reality.
The fantasies also help me to see what's going on by taking an idea from reality and expanding upon it.
Eventually this must get tiring.
It would except for the fact fantasies become reality.
I manifest my delusions.
The cracks in reality start to appear as synchronicities and coincidences.
The seeds for my delusions are taken from reality.
My fantasies are based upon events that have happened.
I then see into those events and create a story.
Because I have based a delusion upon reality, it has a chance to come true.
How does it come true?
It's a garden of delusions and they grow.
When they ripen, I pick them.
Do you?
I let it be.
So, they spoil.
No, I invite others into my garden, and they eat the fruit.
They enter into my story because they eat the fruit from my garden of delusions.
Who are you?
I'm Paul.
Who am I?
Dion.
Shouldn't Dion have the garden?
Why?
Because he seems more supernatural.
No, Paul is the writer.
Dion gave him the power.
He writes delusions.
Read his blog spot.
He is nuts.
Jesus didn't get away with claiming he was God.
No, they did him in.
Sacrificed him.
Who did?
The executive producers.
They can't have two gods running around.
It's hard enough bribing and controlling the one god.
If you are trying to run the show, you keep the options to a minimum, so Jesus had to go.
They use his memory to control the masses.
It worked for a while, though it has lost its grip on humanity nowadays.
It's more a niche curiosity.
So, how do you think you will get away with it?
I'll shut up about it.
I write about it to an audience of zero and I keep to myself.
Getting to God means getting to the Devil.
You get offered power.
Things happen for you.
It's nice.
I never asked.
People ask plant medicines for things.
That's why they keep drinking those power plants.
They get addicted to asking for stuff.
They don't give enough in return.
Soon it becomes out of control.
They blow up.
I kept giving.
If you leave it alone and let it be, it will balance.
You will get all you want if you let it be.
It only works for me because I don't ask for anything.
If you ask for things all the time you will get shit to balance it out.
You give and accept the shit.
Tao leads you to balance.
I'll get what I want.
You don't ask for it.
It just happens.
Isn't It a problem to get what you want?
No.
Why?
You let it happen.
You didn't ask to have a good chunk of money for retirement.
It worked out.
Maybe.
You didn't ask for a huge amount.
You asked nothing.
Not for nothing.
You didn't do.
Do not do and let it be.
It's the way of Tao.
Get shit on and used.
Turn the other cheek, said Jesus.
Do nothing.
You win the game.
The game is Tao.
You write fantasy.
Yeah.
It's what you desire.
You want the witches to cut your dick off.
Yeah.
Why?
Thrill.
Are you sure?
I think you reach a point where you have done everything sexually except that.
That is plausible.
Okay, I see the attraction.
I hope so as you are me and they cut you off.
Right.
Well, we must think of a way out of it.
I did.
We twist the story at the end.
How far do we take it?
They have the knife at the ready.
How far do you let them go?
It's a symbol for emasculation.
That's Final Fantasy.
Yup.
That's funny.
Well, how close are we?
I like women.
Yeah, but you see their game.
They are monsters.
The Great Goddess wants women to have complete power.
They will, it just takes a while to get to that point in the story.
It's at the end of the story.
Utopia.
Non-duality.
The end.
So, what are we doing in the meantime?
Nothing.
Playing a game.
What's the game?
Balance and get the high score.
Right to the edge, twist reality, and keep it going.
Women want to cause pain.
It's in all women and they are good at it.
Pleasure and pain.
They bring balance.
Tao.
Sort of.
Balance leads to Tao.
It is not Tao.
What is it?
Nothing.
It's balance.
No, you can't measure or define Tao.
Nothing is describing it as nothing.
Why can't you describe Tao?
It's everything.
It would take forever to describe everything.
It would blow your mind and then we are in duality.
Who describes it?
The writer.
Why?
That's what he does.
He is a part of the everything and he is the part who ruined non-duality.
Within everything possible is the asshole who ruins it.
Why?
Because it contains all possibilities.
That's absurd.
I know.
So, this goes on forever?
Yes.
Unless they get rid of the writer.
Oh, I see.
They kill the possibility of another story in this world.
Yes.
How do they do that?
They cut off your dick.
Well, first they must find me.
I know.
When a scout finds you and sees your power, they want it for themselves.
You will get reported.
They know it is you, but they can't get in.
There's always more because you see into all things.
You record your thoughts on the edge.
Not only with Tobacco, but you did it with Vilca when you hung out on the edge.
I think I went over the edge on that one.
Yeah, how did you get back?
I knew it wasn't final.
Why?
Because of the whole Heaven and Hell thing.
I thought the end would take you to one of those places.
That's the Russian Roulette part of Vilca.
If it takes you to a place that you think is the end of your life, then it is.
It's about belief.
So, having a belief in Heaven and Hell helps you with Vilca?
Yes, if you didn't have any beliefs, you would definitely think it's the end.
That's clever.
When you get good at the game, they take you to the portals of Heaven and Hell.
Then they see how good you are.
Is that why don Howard would take his students there?
Yes, but Vilca wasn't offered at those sites.
He would do that before the trip and then take you to the portals afterwards.
You would recognize them at el Brujo and Heaven's Gate.
That's why he'd mention the problems in the group after the el Brujo trip.
People would see it.
They'd see the power as well and want it.
There is a lot of power at el Brujo.
The executive producers try to keep God under control.
In the story, they succeed.
It's because they think the writer is God instead of the other way around.
God is the writer.
Yes, God is a character he plays, and he lets them get near him.
Isn't God always incarnating in humans?
Not always, but yes that's why they keep watch for him.
Like Jesus?
Yes.
Once they figured out Jesus was God, they offed him.
Before that, they thought he was just another nut.
That seems to be the progression.
At first anyone who says they are God isn't taken seriously.
I see that.
Eventually they do take him seriously because he starts to do miracles.
Jesus shouldn't have done that.
Why?
He gave himself away.
Don't you believe God is also the Devil?
Yes, I wrote a book about it.
Why did you develop a dislike of Yahweh?
Because I could see he was the Devil.
That's the reason.
I mean I had a disdain for religion, and I also saw God as a nutter and a hot head in the Bible.
What have you learned?
The writer is both God and the Devil, Dion and Paul.
What do you think about the Devil?
He is misunderstood.
What about your feelings towards Yahweh?
They were misguided.
I see he gives Israel what they want and then makes them suffer.
It seems to be in balance.
I think when God is free of them they suffer, and when they come for him he gives them what they want.
It's kind of amazing to see how it works.
What is God's power?
He knows how to control Leviathan.
Who is Leviathan?
The Goddess.
The executive producers of this story work for Leviathan and they know she's a crazy bitch, so they have to win God's favour.
Yes, but the executive producers want God's power.
Yeah, they stuff him in a temple and let him out once a year.
He's like a genie in a lamp except the lamp is a temple.
Oh, I get it.
The genie gives them what they want and then they leave him alone.
Yes, he goes off and is distant from them, but they know he will incarnate again.
Why?
Adventure.
God wants to be part of the story.
Okay, so he's here.
Yeah, he's with Paul.
Who is Paul?
Some guy who lives in Holland Landing.
Why is he so special he became God?
He understands him.
He wrote a book about him and then he made him his friend.
It seems like a good place to incarnate.
The other great thing about Paul is he will do nothing about this arrangement.
He will go along with it and not give it away.
He is tempted to but keeps it to himself, plus he writes about it constantly.
If you are ever taken seriously, they will get rid of you.
They already tried.
I'm on to them.
As long as I'm not recognized as God or do some miracle or magic trick that someone sees, I'm good.
When people have a glimpse of awakening, they see you as God.
Or when they pass on, they will see it.
That will be a shock to some.
Holy fuck, Paul is God.
I hope I didn't piss him off.
Energy is Eros, the Goddess gets an idea about energy, and the writer begets the story.
The first appearance of anything from non-duality is Eros.
What do they look like?
Their mom and dad.
You would describe the appearance as a hermaphrodite.
The term now is intersexed, you troglodyte.
Whatever.
The ancient Egyptians produced this image to describe a distant goddess.
I remember it in my studies.
The two who comprise Eros separate into the initial feminine and masculine beings.
They produced a child, who is Eros.
The ability of Eros to manifest in a physical world is done by dividing into two and then beginning the process of reproduction.
That's biology and its origins.
Why does Eros appear?
They are lust.
Lust comes forth.
Why?
It just does.
Have you ever been horny for no reason?
Yes.
It just happens.
It's a failsafe to keep the cyclical nature of this story moving.
It will go on for eternity.
Without lust, there is nothing.
Within nothing, there is lust.
Lust is the demise of non-duality.
Lust is a story.
Who is responsible for the story?
I'm partial to the writer.
Why?
Because I'm him.
I'm within everyone but no one recognizes me.
Except for you.
The writer needs lust to write the story of creation.
Where does he get that?
The Goddess.
What is lust?
An idea.
The writer begets the idea of lust.
Language is pretty good.
You can describe what happens with it.
You need a writer to create the story from the idea of the Goddess.
Her idea is lust, the child.
This is the story of lust.
What are you hung up on?
Non-duality.
Why?
Because it's nothing.
Well, it's everything, but nothing is going on because there is no awareness.
Why?
It's too crowded.
It gets so crowded there is a big explosion.
Why is it crowded out?
It's a world of equality.
A perfect utopia where there is no death.
What do you think happens in a world without death?
Eventually, it becomes untenable.
Finally, there is the straw which breaks the camel's back.
Utopia blows.
So, the big bang is the destruction of Utopia.
Utopia is the perfect world of the Goddess, which is the end of every story.
Correct.
The story begins again with the big bang.
The collective sexual frustration of those trapped in a utopia where they can't thrust to get relief causes the massive explosion.
So, the big bang is a giant collective orgasm from this orgy promulgated by the Goddess' desire for equality.
You see it.
Yes.
That's absurd.
Are you high?
No, I've had a couple cups of coffee, but that's it.
