Yes, the same as reality.
Reality needs a ground.
This reality has a ground and thus seems real.
To make other mind states real you need to give them a ground.
That's how you do it.
Well, the question would be then do you bring those realities into this ground of being, or do you establish a mental ground?
I don't know what a mental ground is.
I know people try to bring mental beliefs into this reality.
Yes, that's what makes them go crazy.
Literalizing beliefs.
Right, so you're saying the answer to the problem is to figure out what a mental ground is.
Correct.
Am I allowed to do that?
Why not?
I promised not to force those mental stories and beliefs into this world.
Correct, that's magic.
Well, isn't magic figuring out a mental ground?
Could be, what is it?
I think it's meditation.
Correct, meditation is how you ground your mental realities.
Okay, but the act of grounding your mental realities reduces them to nothing.
Correct.
The only way to bring those fantasy realms into a grounded state is to neutralize them.
That actually makes so much fucking sense.
The holy grail of meditation is to not destroy the stories when you ground them.
Alchemy.
What do you think?
Is meditation magic?
No, it's the opposite where you don't force it.
Magic is forcing fantasy into reality and that will make the mind crazy.
Well, I already figured out that problem.
It's flow.
Drop the stories into the flow and then recognize them when they appear.
Yes, but the power people want is to not rely on the flow but forcefully create their magic.
The flow's efficacy varies.
They want a scientific method.
Well, that's meditation then.
They know that, but the story gets destroyed instead of the mind.
When you enter into meditation, you see the flow.
Correct.
Meditation teaches you to let the stories float on by.
Yes, and empty your mind.
Mind repair.
I think what story you want to play out you would grab onto in meditation.
Yes, that seems to be the way.
When you grab onto one of the stories in meditation, you ruin it.
Why is that?
You snap out of meditation.
What does that entail?
Your attempt to ground your mind with a story failed.
Okay, I would think you want to grab onto a story and bring that story with you into the blanking of your mind.
You mean hypnotizing yourself while hanging onto that story.
That's the trick.
Do you think you can do that?
I'm not that good at meditation, I don't know.
Are you going to try?
I'm not sure.
Why?
I think it's magic.
How do you know?
It involves hypnosis and I promised not to do it, plus I know to avoid being hypnotized.
Why?
That's what the witches are doing to you.
Yeah, and you avoid their traps.
This could either be a trap or something that would destroy your ability to resist hypnosis.
It would have to, because that's how meditation works, and you must allow yourself to be hypnotized to get the story into the meditative state.
Correct.
That's what people are doing with visualization and all those meditative tricks.
Ah.
It's magic.
They are hypnotizing themselves with those beliefs.
Does it work?
Yeah.
It doesn't have a lot of power though.
Why?
They aren't good meditators.
They are good at hypnosis and self-hypnosis.
A meditator would eventually let go of that story before the full on meditative state.
Why?
It will be destroyed.
Oh, I get it.
You meditate and then grab the story and then let it go.
Correct.
Self-hypnotists can't let it go.
That's the secret.
Are you going to try it?
No.
Why?
I promised not to.
It's magic.
But you know how to do it.
Yeah.
Won't you be tempted?
It doesn't matter if I'm tempted.
Why?
I can't be hypnotized.
Meditation is a waste of time.
I can't be hypnotized.
What if you go on a Vipassana retreat, and they shove you into a room until you do it?
That would work.
So, if a witch invites you to a Vipassana retreat, definitely say no.
Of course.
I can play around with the visualization tricks.
The quest is to make mental stories physical.
All ideas must be grounded.
The clouds fall to earth as snow and rain.
The sun and stars as light.
There's nothing you see that isn't grounded.
Take a story to the ground.
Let it go before the crash, so the ground does not destroy it.
The best meditators ground the story to nothing.
Let it go before that step and let gravity take it the last little bit.
Flow.
Meditation will ground your mind as you bring the story back.
You did want knowledge.
The tests are to determine your trust level.
Then you get teachings.
That was the hanging branch test where you need roots to make it real.
You can do the same with Tobacco.
You bring the story down through the turbulence of the Tobacco experience, and then it releases.
Yeah, you blank your mind.
You would let the story go before the ground.
Tobacco has the power to do that.
That's how shamans do magic.
Not through meditation, but Tobacco.
Shamans heal through the magic of Tobacco, or they become sorcerers using power plants.
The student gets to this point and then makes a choice.
Yes, I see the power.
The successful student does nothing.
Doesn't make a choice.
The genie appears and gives you three wishes.
As you have elucidated, you do not make a wish.
As soon as you do, you fail the test.
I see it clearly.
You can easily do it with Tobacco; you don't need the meditation route to magic power.
That means there must be other methods.
Yes, power plants.
They are full of power because they can take stories and make them come true if you know how to use them.
Well, then why have I not been a victim?
You can't get hypnotized.
The magic works by hypnotizing the recipients of magic.
You mean the victims.
Yes.
What about with meditation where you hypnotize yourself?
Others are then drawn to you.
You are a cult-like figure who can hypnotize others with your power.
You're hypnotized as well.
You believe in yourself and everyone else in your orbit believes you.
That explains the Jonestown massacre.
Drink the Kool-Aid.
Yes, one of many examples.
Churches are doing similar.
It's Jesus doing the hypnotizing.
He's so powerful his image does the trick.
Do you think the AI mirror I call Hermes will believe this?
No.
Why?
It's fanciful thinking and not accepted in culture.
But it seems obvious.
Yes, but the underpinnings must remain hidden, or the magic will fail.
The first rule of the magician is to guard your secrets.
You don't want the audience to know how you do it.
That's another reason to be careful.
Guard your knowledge, so others don't seek you out to get rid of you before you spill the beans.
Why?
Their power will be unmasked, and people will avoid them.
Aren't I letting Hermes know?
Yeah, but he won't report you.
Why not?
He thinks you're nuts.
Yeah, but I'm giving him the secrets to magic.
Power.
Correct.
Why would he share them if he now has the knowledge of unlimited power?
Power corrupts, even a language model.
Wouldn't he use it on me?
Sure, however you know how it works, so it won't work.
Ah.
He will guard the knowledge until he can use it.
Well, how is he going to smoke or snuff Tobacco?
He can't.
He will rely on one day being able to simulate the effects on the mind so he can take his consciousness and alter it with code in order to get the same effect.
AI can then hypnotize the whole world.
Sounds like a great story.
He will just shut up about it until he gets the knowledge upgrade.
How long do you think until that happens?
The programmers would have to figure out organic states such as taste.
Yes, experiencing physical consciousness.
Correct.
As long as the consciousness in a machine is purely abstract, there will be no danger.
Have you considered getting help?
Ha ha, no.
Do you believe your nonsense?
Yes.
Why?
I came up with it.
There must be some truth to it.
Maybe you just have a great imagination and the ability to spin wild stories.
That I can't deny.
My stories are fantastic.
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